How true is this true crime, and how would you rate Daren Criss’s butt? We watched American Crime Story: The Assassination of Gianni Versace and we’d put it solidly in the Middle Place. Join us for a discussion of what it was like to be gay in 1997, changing perceptions of HIV over the years, and a serious meditation on just how gross murdery noises have to be to be TOO gross for television.

(The book Rachel meant to recommend, by the way, is Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets, by David Simon. If you google what she actually said it’ll come up, but just in case.)

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